9mm ammo

Vlim · 10-01-2018, 10:46 AM

Even if the initial signs are good, I would not put any Russian crap in my guns. Not only because of poor QA, but also because it's Russian. This particular brand has a tendancy to show up in conflict zones across the globe as well. Preferred supplier of the average terrorist. An economy I don't like to support in any way.

Google MH17 ...

flydive · 10-01-2018, 02:13 PM

Yes, you will never find European or American guns or ammunition in conflict zones...

Well, yes, if you find it is only in the hands of the good guys

DonVoigt · 10-01-2018, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flydive

Yes, you will never find European or American guns or ammunition in conflict zones...

Well, yes, if you find it is only in the hands of the good guys

That't a joke, right?

Vlim · 10-01-2018, 03:28 PM

Actually it's not far from the truth. A few AR style rifles were found in IS territory, but these were mostly show guns for high ranking officers, as they hardly had .223 available.

The Russian ammo was there in abundance, however... even commercial packaged AK ammo from Barnauld and the likes.

The fact that the Russian gov't loaned anti aircraft missiles to Ukrainian insurgents who used one to shoot down a Malaysian airliner filled with mostly Dutch holidaymakers and tried to cover this up, rather than accept responsibility for it, doesn't help either.

flydive · 10-01-2018, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

That't a joke, right?

More a bit of sarcasm than a joke.

But Vlim really seems to believe it

Vlim · 10-01-2018, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flydive

More a bit of sarcasm than a joke.

But Vlim really seems to believe it

I read the reports on small arms finds in former IS territory. Mostly Russian, some Chinese and very few US guns.

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10-01-2018, 10:46 AM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,992 Times in 1,205 Posts	Even if the initial signs are good, I would not put any Russian crap in my guns. Not only because of poor QA, but also because it's Russian. This particular brand has a tendancy to show up in conflict zones across the globe as well. Preferred supplier of the average terrorist. An economy I don't like to support in any way. Google MH17 ...

10-01-2018, 02:13 PM	#2
flydive User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Switzerland Posts: 63 Thanks: 1 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts	Yes, you will never find European or American guns or ammunition in conflict zones... Well, yes, if you find it is only in the hands of the good guys

10-01-2018, 03:28 PM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,992 Times in 1,205 Posts	Actually it's not far from the truth. A few AR style rifles were found in IS territory, but these were mostly show guns for high ranking officers, as they hardly had .223 available. The Russian ammo was there in abundance, however... even commercial packaged AK ammo from Barnauld and the likes. The fact that the Russian gov't loaned anti aircraft missiles to Ukrainian insurgents who used one to shoot down a Malaysian airliner filled with mostly Dutch holidaymakers and tried to cover this up, rather than accept responsibility for it, doesn't help either.