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[Kyrie]

Sieger,

Yes sir, I am aware of STANAG 4090:

http://www.gigconceptsinc.com/files/...ridge_9x19.pdf

4090 was never accepted by US DOD or ANSI/SAMMI, and was not implemented by the US.

Strongly advise keeping in mind the fact NATO is a treaty that has no enforcement element. NATO treaty signatories pursue their own interests without regard to NATO treaty obligations. NATO Standard Agreements are something of a bad joke.

[Kyrie]

Kurusu

That's some outstanding shooting!

Kyrie

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Kyrie

Sieger,

Yes sir, I am aware of STANAG 4090:

http://www.gigconceptsinc.com/files/...ridge_9x19.pdf

4090 was never accepted by US DOD or ANSI/SAMMI, and was not implemented by the US.

Strongly advise keeping in mind the fact NATO is a treaty that has no enforcement element. NATO treaty signatories pursue their own interests without regard to NATO treaty obligations. NATO Standard Agreements are something of a bad joke.

Kyrie,

Then why does STANAG 4090 state that it was, indeed, implemented, by all three branches of our Armed Forces, in June of 1986?

Sieger

[Kyrie]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Kyrie,

Then why does STANAG 4090 state that it was, indeed, implemented, by all three branches of our Armed Forces, in June of 1986?

Sieger

Sorry Sieger, but you're seeing what you expect to see rather than what is there.

What's being 'implemented' is the acceptance of the 9 mm Luger cartridge as a US issue cartridge. The US notified NATO the USA was accepting the 9 mm cartridge the year after the Beretta model 92 was accepted as a standard US sidearm.