Luger Steel Lanyard 'Staple'

[spacecoast]

What is TBLAP?

G&S, red set.

[sheepherder]

Here's an interesting observation...Although the late P08 frame notch (the cut for the lanyard loop) is the same as the early [P04, 1900] frames @ 1.8mm, the P08 has longer staple 'legs'...8mm, as opposed to 6mm...Was the frame made thicker???

And the shoulder-to-bend measurement for the loop was increased from 3.5mm to 5mm...

It wasn't intended to be used, so they made the notch wider???

[Major Tom]

Originally Posted by spacecoast

G&S, red set.

I just ordered this book. I don't know if it's the green or red one, the info page didn't clarify. It cost me $225 plus shipping. I understand they are heavy books. Should be good reading for years to come.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Major Tom

I just ordered this book. I don't know if it's the green or red one, the info page didn't clarify. It cost me $225 plus shipping. I understand they are heavy books. Should be good reading for years to come.

It's a 3-book set, IIRC. The first edition, the green set, was heavily edited by the publisher [again, IIRC] and the authors were incensed. So much so that they re-issued the book with their original (and some added) comments, pictures, and observations. That's the red set. The red set is the later edition sold by Simpson's.

There is a 3-4 page thread on this here somewhere, I'll try to find it.

Here is the short thread on the controversy surrounding the two editions (on page 3) -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=29036

Ordering instructions for the DVD are in there too, in case your set (whichever it is) doesn't have the CDs/DVD...

[Norme]

Hi Tom,
I own both sets, here is my take. You can't go wrong with either set, they are both superb, indispensable reference works for the serious collector. If you are a book kind of guy, as I am, you will like the green set better. If you want to pull out a single volume you can do so without having to lift the whole case out of the shelf, which you have to do with the poorly designed slip case of the red set. When you open a green book it stays open and lays flat, not so with a red book. The green books are printed on better paper and have larger and clearer illustrations. The red books are said to have many updates and additions, in two years I have only found one, an added photo spread.
The big plus with the red set is the searchable DVD which comes with it. If you are a computer kind of guy you will love it. The photos come in loud and clear and you can zoom in. However, since the DVD is available separately for about $40.00, it's not all that big a plus.
Norm