Shoulder stocks..what will fit?

[m1903a3]

Ed

The problem arises only if you own a stock and a short barreled Luger with a stock lug and do not own a Luger that is appropriate for the stock. For example, if you have a Navy stock and a Navy Luger, you can only get in trouble by actually attaching the stock to any non-Navy Luger. You can have all the other Lugers you want, just don't attach a stock to the wrong one.

However, if you have a stock and only short barrel Lugers (or the wrong long one, e.g. an lP.08 and a Navy stock) then the ATF can go after you. In that case your stock could only be used to create a short-barreled rifle. Of course, you can always register a short barrel luger, pay the $200 and your stock can be used with it legally. But it's the pistol that gets registered, not the stock, so you still can't use the stock on other ones.

Here it is, straight from the ATF: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/if-p...possession-nfa

They note that Lugers with stocks have been removed from the NFA, but that only applies to Lugers using the correct stock.

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

...What needs to be done is the ATF needs to be asked this same, exact question on german made 4 inch, 7.65mm and 9mm lugers and both stocks. I think folks are afraid of getting the wrong answer...

I have said it before regarding this approach and I will say it again...Let sleeping dogs lie. Right now we have agreeable language in the rulings that accommodate stocked Lugers. In the current trend of anti-gun environment, an attempt to open up the legality of using a stock with any 4-inch Luger other than what has already been approved just asks for an adverse decision that will cause more trouble than it is worth. I do not give a rosy red rodent's rump if a small segment of our community feels that it is necessary to go out of the way to justify attaching a stock to a short barreled Luger...it serves no purpose and just rubs salt in the wound. If you can't shoot a short barreled Luger without a stock you probably have already exceeded your ability to shoot and need to just sit back and read a good book or watch television.

And yes, I am afraid of getting a wrong answer...and you should be too.

[m1903a3]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I have never seen this before.


This is actually a bit contradictory - I say that because if you know Finn lugers, the 4 inch and 5 inch are legal with german or finn stocks, and Finn DWM lugers are not very obvious. There were certain serial numbers ones that were bought, but what came back into the USA may or may not have SA on them or have a Tikka barrel on them from what I have seen.

What needs to be done is the ATF needs to be asked this same, exact question on german made 4 inch, 7.65mm and 9mm lugers and both stocks. I think folks are afraid of getting the wrong answer.

The stocks aren't legal on Artillery and Navy Lugers because they have long barrels, they are legal because they were issued with them.

The same logic applies to the Finns. The barrels may be shorter, but the pistols originally were issued with stocks.

A German P.08 or other short barreled Luger on the other hand would not have been originally equipped with a stock, therefore there is no original stock to be used with one. The rule isn't complicated. Most pistols that were originaly used with stocks, regardless of barrel length, have been removed from the NFA when used with their original model stock. But you can't mix and match.