RIF contract?

Don M · 10-17-2014, 12:30 PM

It's interesting that this blank toggle Luger is 7.65 cal. While I haven't specifically studied it, it is my impression that the observed blank toggles are in 9 mm, which is consistent with their police service. It would also seem that the pistols clandestinely manufactured for the Riff contract would be 9 mm since they were intended for military service. Obviously, DWM was being "sneaky" in manufacturing these so I expect they would have ignored the IMKK limitations and manufactured these in 9 mm. If so, why is this one 7.65?

Arminius · 10-17-2014, 12:44 PM

Seriously:

I do not know this.

But why not in 7.65 mm?

It was the Swiss Army´s round until 1947.

And the Red Army´s 7,62 x 25 was only slightly more potent, and used until much later.

But I am VERY sure, that all RIF contract were the same caliber initially. And even if they made them in 9 mm, sales to Police and private persons was limited to 7.65 mm.

I DO NOT KNOW, but would rather suspect that pistols were rebarreled up to 9 mm after the weapons ban was ignored by the Nazis

Again: I do not know, just guessing!

Hermann

10-17-2014, 12:30 PM	#1
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	It's interesting that this blank toggle Luger is 7.65 cal. While I haven't specifically studied it, it is my impression that the observed blank toggles are in 9 mm, which is consistent with their police service. It would also seem that the pistols clandestinely manufactured for the Riff contract would be 9 mm since they were intended for military service. Obviously, DWM was being "sneaky" in manufacturing these so I expect they would have ignored the IMKK limitations and manufactured these in 9 mm. If so, why is this one 7.65? __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

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10-17-2014, 12:44 PM	#2
Arminius User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austria Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Seriously: I do not know this. But why not in 7.65 mm? It was the Swiss Army´s round until 1947. And the Red Army´s 7,62 x 25 was only slightly more potent, and used until much later. But I am VERY sure, that all RIF contract were the same caliber initially. And even if they made them in 9 mm, sales to Police and private persons was limited to 7.65 mm. I DO NOT KNOW, but would rather suspect that pistols were rebarreled up to 9 mm after the weapons ban was ignored by the Nazis Again: I do not know, just guessing! Hermann