How do I ship: new C&R Licensee

Edward Tinker · 08-24-2014, 06:21 PM

Okay, let me tell you the proper way.

FedEx or ups next day air - just say it upfront, also say that if it must be shipped via a FFL 01 than you will have to add $50 - the shipper does not need to have an FFL themselves, just. The buyer, who sends it and the money to you.

I wrap the pistol in many layers of bubble wrap. Many. Then put it into a fedex or ups box.

The reason I said right way, there are many who believe that from FFL to FFL you can ship USPS. I believe it's correct, however I usually ship 2nd day air...

ithacaartist · 08-26-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

...shipped via a FFL 01 than you will have to add $50 - the shipper does not need to have an FFL themselves, just. The buyer, who sends it and the money to you.

Ed, New York requires any firearm sent FFL to FFL. Maybe this is what you mean by the first part and extra money?

Anyway, it is not a federal, post office, ups/fedex, ATF requirement, but one concocted by our beloved state police. They, I believe, have nixed any gun shipping/receiving by C&R holders, along with dis-allowing SBRs.

lew1 · 08-26-2014, 08:45 PM

What reason, if any, was given for requiring that an out of state shipper had to have an FFL ?

ithacaartist · 08-27-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lew1

What reason, if any, was given for requiring that an out of state shipper had to have an FFL ?

Charlie, it beats me, as I've heard no specific reason for it. It would definitely provide a more solid provenance for a gun's most recent origins. If just anybody could send a gun to a dealer here, who is to say that they are even using their real name--not that it would make any meaningful difference? I think it may be an attempt to keep firearms legitimate and out of the black market, either bought or sold. Different from some states where private exchanges go undocumented... Different from before 1968, for sure! I think I'll look into it and let you know.

lew1 · 08-27-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Charlie, it beats me, as I've heard no specific reason for it. It would definitely provide a more solid provenance for a gun's most recent origins. If just anybody could send a gun to a dealer here, who is to say that they are even using their real name--not that it would make any meaningful difference? I think it may be an attempt to keep firearms legitimate and out of the black market, either bought or sold. Different from some states where private exchanges go undocumented... Different from before 1968, for sure! I think I'll look into it and let you know.

Look at the fact they they want background checks nationally on 'all' firearms (closing the gun show loophole). under such practice only the buyer is checked out. And no info on the firearm is given except whether it is a handgun, long gun, etc.

Of course the next step would be to require such info.

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,980 Thanks: 2,080 Thanked 4,614 Times in 2,127 Posts	Okay, let me tell you the proper way. FedEx or ups next day air - just say it upfront, also say that if it must be shipped via a FFL 01 than you will have to add $50 - the shipper does not need to have an FFL themselves, just. The buyer, who sends it and the money to you. I wrap the pistol in many layers of bubble wrap. Many. Then put it into a fedex or ups box. The reason I said right way, there are many who believe that from FFL to FFL you can ship USPS. I believe it's correct, however I usually ship 2nd day air...