Chronographed luger results

[stressed]

Chris,

I ran the EMB, critical defence and gaurd dog because I know some of the guys have problems with feeding JHP's, expecially the WWI era ones so these are expanding bullets with an FMJ profile, and they can get an idea of what performance to expect out of their pistol.

As for Siegers claim of the original 123gr at 1076fps, I suggest running the Federal American Eagle supresser specific 124gr FMJ as its flying right at 1000fps give or take, mimicking the original DWM load. You guys with WW1 era guns should have no problems with that round, and it's easy on the gun. Clean burning too.

[ChrisLL]

Thanks stressed. I have never seen the AE suppressor specific stuff around here. Unfortunately ammo and for that matter powder is "take what you can get around here". For example a stop at the only local gun shop carrying powder yesterday yielded a pound of Titegroup. Not what I was looking for but at least it's something, it was that or nothing. I did see a half-pound of PB last week at a shop out of town, but $31 seemed too much for 8 oz. at least to my wallet.

Similar situation with ammo, occasionally white box at Walmart, but other than that - if it's available it's expensive.

All the more reason to work up a few acceptable reloads with what's available I guess. Helpful to get good info like this and specific info and OAL suggestions and procedures form Sieger and the rest of the gang.

Chris

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by ChrisLL

I did see a half-pound of PB last week at a shop out of town, but $31 seemed too much for 8 oz. at least to my wallet.


Chris

This powder is being discontinued, and a number of places are discounting it. I wouldn't want to spend the time and energy to develop good loads for a discontinued powder

[ChrisLL]

Originally Posted by rhuff

This powder is being discontinued, and a number of places are discounting it. I wouldn't want to spend the time and energy to develop good loads for a discontinued powder

Yes, unfortunately read that. I have been using it though for some 380 and 32ACP loads and if I could get it at a reasonable price would buy it.

Chris

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by ChrisLL

Yes, unfortunately read that. I have been using it though for some 380 and 32ACP loads and if I could get it at a reasonable price would buy it.

Chris

Sorry, I didn't realize that you had been loading with it. In that case, if you like it, I would gather a good inventory of it while still available.

[JuneGrass 8]

Just read the thread on the discontinuing of SR4756 . I just acquired a 30 cal. Swiss 06 , and have been reading up on all the loads that show up on these forums . My question is , has anyone tried VV 3n37 ? I already have this for use in my 38 super , and would like to use it in the Luger if at all possible , Thanks Don

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by JuneGrass 8

Just read the thread on the discontinuing of SR4756 . I just acquired a 30 cal. Swiss 06 , and have been reading up on all the loads that show up on these forums . My question is , has anyone tried VV 3n37 ? I already have this for use in my 38 super , and would like to use it in the Luger if at all possible , Thanks Don

Hi,

Yes, I'd try it immediately!

I'd start with the VV Loading Guide with the lowest load listed for your bullet weight. Then, I'd start increasing the charge 1/10th of a grain until I just started activating the hold-open device on the last shot (single shot tests will do for this phase). If the VV Loading Guide's lowest load activates your hold-open device, then decrease your load until the hold-open will not activate and note your minimum load accordingly. This will act as your base load.

With your base load established, you can comfortably move up, with 1/10th grain increments, from there; carefully watching for either tight groups or pressure signs/pistol malfunctions. When the load is getting to hot, it starts to outrun the springs in your Luger and jams will occur. Stop increasing your load at any sign of pressure or malfunction, as overloading your Luger may case it serious damage (breach block slap)!

Critical to proper Luger function is cartridge O.A.L., so please read my Sticky on how to determine proper O.A.L.. For round nose bullets, the original DWM specs were 1.173 inches of O.A.L..

I've found this powder extremely accurate in my 9mm LP-08; in fact, its my most accurate in this pistol.

Try it, as it should be an excellent powder for the 7.65mm Luger!

Good shooting!


Sieger

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by rhuff

This powder is being discontinued, and a number of places are discounting it. I wouldn't want to spend the time and energy to develop good loads for a discontinued powder

Hi,

Is Herco being discontinued as well?


Sieger

[ChrisLL]

Sieger,

All I know is from another forum, where they quoted Chris Hodgdon as saying this in response to being asked about 4756 being discontinued:


Yes this powder (4756) along with 4759, PB and 7625 will be discontinued by the end of 2014. I can understand that you are disappointed but there are many reasons why we are discontinuing including outdated technology, high manufacturing costs and low sales.

Appreciate your interest and business

- Chris Hodgdon