Where's the beef?

[CAP Black]

I once had a friend who owned an auto repair shop where they also inspected autos. I took my almost new Mercedes there for inspection. He had another person do my inspection because he didn't want to touch it. It was German and he despised Germans as he had served in WWII but, not in Germany. I later took him a 1900 AE that I was so proud of - he was a gun nut - but he wouldn't touch it. Several months later he told me that my car was the prettiest car he had ever seen and he and his wife went to buy one like mine but he couldn't make himself buy one for reasons already stated.
Some people have such stupid hatred that they do bad things and say bad things.

[mastermo]

"I once had a friend who owned an auto repair shop where they also inspected autos. I took my almost new Mercedes there for inspection. He had another person do my inspection because he didn't want to touch it. It was German and he despised Germans as he had served in WWII but, not in Germany. I later took him a 1900 AE that I was so proud of - he was a gun nut - but he wouldn't touch it. Several months later he told me that my car was the prettiest car he had ever seen and he and his wife went to buy one like mine but he couldn't make himself buy one for reasons already stated.
Some people have such stupid hatred that they do bad things and say bad things. " .........CAP black
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---I totally agree. I think the old man fit this description.
Btw, I've had a '74 Porsche 914 (German of course, for over 35 yrs. that I upgraded to a 916. Put flares and wide tires and overhauled the engine, even though it didn't need it at 49,000 mi., since parts for the engine are still available and affordable. Also, rear spoiler and front air dam, etc. It has given me great service and pleasure to drive. Can you imagine the $ it has saved me not having to buy a new car after 3 or 4 yrs.
People, strange but even little kids look and get others to look at it, wave, ask, admire it almost every time I take it out. I only put about 500 mi. per yr. and it still does the 150 mph. --Not that I've driven it at that speed but by the rpm's and speed it figures it can do it.

Not to stray away from the subject too far, I have only had one man, in 35 yrs. say he would not buy a 'rice burner' because of what they did to his uncle in the war (prisoner and tortured).
I asked him what was his uncle doing during the war when he was captured, and he, after some persuasion for an answer, replied he was a bomber. ---I didn't say it to him but in war they don't treat you well if you are killing their side. That's war.
I haven't seen any prejudice bias faces concerning the car. But....I certainly have concerning German weapons.
M

[cdmech]

I got dirt on a gun left behind me on a table at the range once. Turned out it was from a squirrel knocking trash off the awning rafters. At first I just couldn't understand what I was looking at, then more fell on my head. That had to be one deaf squirrel.
Marc

[mastermo]

Sir, Not to tell you your buisness, but I wouldn't leave my gun lying around unattended, while I went to the restroom. That's asking for it............Dave
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A coward like that would lie in wait for conditions to be in his favor..... Alanint
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I have a $5 hip holster that I stick my 1911 in when I go downrange and I just carry the luger along. Though so far this year I have yet to encounter anyone but myself using the range. I must be the only person dumb enough to go out in subfreezing temps to shoot......KMichael90
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I agree with Jerry. I never leave a firearm unattended. I don't fear that anyone would mess with it, just steal it. It would be so easy for someone to pick a weapon up and be gone while you are in the butts--especially a handgun. Just my $0.02. .........Neil
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Dave, Dave, KMichael90, Neil,
Wow, how different your ranges operate compared to here! Here one cannot carry a loaded weapon at all into the range or during in or out. They check you upon entering and signing in. Before cease-fire all, and I mean all weapons must be cleared and open bolts/breaches and each individual bench is checked by a ranger.
During cease-fire, you absolutely cannot be near or touch anything on the bench, or pack or unpack any gun, except pass between the benches to go to check or move targets, and while doing this one cannot carry any kind of loaded or unloaded weapon. Not, even Lugers KM-90.

Now, anyone can pass any bench they want going or coming back from ck'ing your targets. Some short-cut to put their target holders while preparing to leave.

When I went to the restroom, I thought it would be safe since it was during cease-fire and as Alanint said, " A coward like that would lie in wait for conditions to be in his favor." ---It would be very hard to detect someone who walks by and slyly drops the sand on the weapons. This would only take a second and he may be looking for witnesses the whole time. He doesn't have to see where he drops it for his hand is only inches away from his target.

And believe me the Park Rangers, approximately one every five benches plus the ranger on a high platform who loudly yells over the PA, will get the attention of anyone who violates this rule. Mostly new comers are the ones who think it is ok to just get close to their bench without touching anything or get something safe like glasses, etc. No they can't there is a blue line behind the benches about 8 ft. away we have to wait for everyone to return before the line becomes 'hot' again.

Both ranges run 7 days a week and during the wk. usually have around 60 to 100 shooters. And during the weekend, about 200 to 300.
M

[mastermo]

Originally Posted by Railsplitter

Vandalism, period, makes no sense to me. Theft does. I have something someone likes and for whatever reason he feels that he may not be able to acquire it on his own so he takes it. That makes sense to me. However, to deliberately abuse or ruin something that does not belong to me in an attempt to make it so that nobody can derive any pleasure from it is mindless. I could live to be 100 and I will still not understand vandalism. I, and I suspect many other members of this Forum, was raised to respect the property of others more than my own. This act was uncalled for and unjustifiable.

---Rs, it probably makes sense to them because they took pleasure in doing that. There are some that enjoy 'sick thrills.'
M

[kmichaels90]

Originally Posted by mastermo

Sir, Not to tell you your buisness, but I wouldn't leave my gun lying around unattended, while I went to the restroom. That's asking for it............Dave
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A coward like that would lie in wait for conditions to be in his favor..... Alanint
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I have a $5 hip holster that I stick my 1911 in when I go downrange and I just carry the luger along. Though so far this year I have yet to encounter anyone but myself using the range. I must be the only person dumb enough to go out in subfreezing temps to shoot......KMichael90
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I agree with Jerry. I never leave a firearm unattended. I don't fear that anyone would mess with it, just steal it. It would be so easy for someone to pick a weapon up and be gone while you are in the butts--especially a handgun. Just my $0.02. .........Neil
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Dave, Dave, KMichael90, Neil,
Wow, how different your ranges operate compared to here! Here one cannot carry a loaded weapon at all into the range or during in or out. They check you upon entering and signing in. Before cease-fire all, and I mean all weapons must be cleared and open bolts/breaches and each individual bench is checked by a ranger.
During cease-fire, you absolutely cannot be near or touch anything on the bench, or pack or unpack any gun, except pass between the benches to go to check or move targets, and while doing this one cannot carry any kind of loaded or unloaded weapon. Not, even Lugers KM-90.

Now, anyone can pass any bench they want going or coming back from ck'ing your targets. Some short-cut to put their target holders while preparing to leave.

When I went to the restroom, I thought it would be safe since it was during cease-fire and as Alanint said, " A coward like that would lie in wait for conditions to be in his favor." ---It would be very hard to detect someone who walks by and slyly drops the sand on the weapons. This would only take a second and he may be looking for witnesses the whole time. He doesn't have to see where he drops it for his hand is only inches away from his target.

And believe me the Park Rangers, approximately one every five benches plus the ranger on a high platform who loudly yells over the PA, will get the attention of anyone who violates this rule. Mostly new comers are the ones who think it is ok to just get close to their bench without touching anything or get something safe like glasses, etc. No they can't there is a blue line behind the benches about 8 ft. away we have to wait for everyone to return before the line becomes 'hot' again.

Both ranges run 7 days a week and during the wk. usually have around 60 to 100 shooters. And during the weekend, about 200 to 300.
M

The range I go to is completely outdoors and like I said there is absolutely no one there to oversee anything. The only person who would ever be there is there groundskeeper, who could give a hoot less what you do as long as your not shooting at him.