RCBS 2 Die Set / HELP!!!!

nukem556 · 12-10-2010, 04:18 PM

Hmm I dont understand how you can flare the case with a 2 die set. I have lots of dies (Lee, Hornady,RCBS) and my 2 die sets are rifle dies, my pistol sets have a seperate 3rd die whose only purpose is flaring the case for bullet seating. If the sizing die flared the case neck, it coudlnt be pulled back out past the sized neck portion of the die. I'm missing something here.

ptrickamp222 · 12-11-2010, 01:02 AM

The Dillon 550B is a progressive loader, 4 stations. Dillon does not make 30 Cal luger dies. I was told on this forum to get the RCBS 25001 2 Die set for the Dillon. I bought also a quik change kit from Dillon that comes with station 2 for the case bell with the powder funnel and powder holder and powder bar. You start with the RCBS Die 1 in station 1 to size the case and deprime and prime. Move to station 2 to bell the case and add the correct powder charge. Move to station 3 to add the second RCBS die to add the 90gr lead cast bullet with wax cannelure and seat the bullet.If crimped at the wax cannelure is way to long. I need 1.173 is what I am told from the Pro's here. I've readjusted and have come pretty close to the crimp being almost completely flat. No station 4 for crimping on the RCBS 2 die set for the 4 station 550B. That's my problem. I think I need to call RCBS and see if they sell just 1 die for crimping that I can add to station 4 and use 3 just for bullet seating. But the big question is has anyone got the 2 die RCBS set to work and how did you do and what bullet was used to get the cannelure and crimp correct. I am within specs, not to over, a little less in fact. Thanks for any input. Any Dillon or RCBS Pro's out there.................And if RCBS sells the 2 die set and is recommended here it must work somehow........

ptrickamp222 · 12-12-2010, 01:39 AM

I did some research today and found on the Lee site some nice crimping dies. I will have to call and find out if they will fit the Dillon and what they think is the best way to go. I am still going to talk to RCBS about their 2 die set. If they make it and sell it......It Should Work!!!!!! As described in one action. seat the bullet and roll crimp at the same time! Still any one with any experience in this area please feel free to let me know what you found out with the 25001 set and what you think is the best solution. Try what I've got and see how it works, Tell me what bullet to use that the cannelure is in the right place for the roll crimp and the OAL at 1.173. Or what Crimp die to get for station 4........Thanks in advance!!!!!!!

Neil Young · 12-12-2010, 08:20 AM

I have used Lee crimping dies for years for various calibers (not the 30 cal. Luger though) and they reallly work nicely. Setting them up is easy and they are fast to use and trouble-free.

Neil

12-11-2010, 01:02 AM	#2
ptrickamp222 User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	RCBS 25001 Dies for 30 Cal Luger The Dillon 550B is a progressive loader, 4 stations. Dillon does not make 30 Cal luger dies. I was told on this forum to get the RCBS 25001 2 Die set for the Dillon. I bought also a quik change kit from Dillon that comes with station 2 for the case bell with the powder funnel and powder holder and powder bar. You start with the RCBS Die 1 in station 1 to size the case and deprime and prime. Move to station 2 to bell the case and add the correct powder charge. Move to station 3 to add the second RCBS die to add the 90gr lead cast bullet with wax cannelure and seat the bullet.If crimped at the wax cannelure is way to long. I need 1.173 is what I am told from the Pro's here. I've readjusted and have come pretty close to the crimp being almost completely flat. No station 4 for crimping on the RCBS 2 die set for the 4 station 550B. That's my problem. I think I need to call RCBS and see if they sell just 1 die for crimping that I can add to station 4 and use 3 just for bullet seating. But the big question is has anyone got the 2 die RCBS set to work and how did you do and what bullet was used to get the cannelure and crimp correct. I am within specs, not to over, a little less in fact. Thanks for any input. Any Dillon or RCBS Pro's out there.................And if RCBS sells the 2 die set and is recommended here it must work somehow........

12-12-2010, 01:39 AM	#3
ptrickamp222 User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 60 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Lee Dies for Crimping I did some research today and found on the Lee site some nice crimping dies. I will have to call and find out if they will fit the Dillon and what they think is the best way to go. I am still going to talk to RCBS about their 2 die set. If they make it and sell it......It Should Work!!!!!! As described in one action. seat the bullet and roll crimp at the same time! Still any one with any experience in this area please feel free to let me know what you found out with the 25001 set and what you think is the best solution. Try what I've got and see how it works, Tell me what bullet to use that the cannelure is in the right place for the roll crimp and the OAL at 1.173. Or what Crimp die to get for station 4........Thanks in advance!!!!!!!

12-12-2010, 08:20 AM	#4
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 552 Thanks: 567 Thanked 449 Times in 170 Posts	I have used Lee crimping dies for years for various calibers (not the 30 cal. Luger though) and they reallly work nicely. Setting them up is easy and they are fast to use and trouble-free. Neil __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

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12-10-2010, 04:18 PM	#1
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Hmm I dont understand how you can flare the case with a 2 die set. I have lots of dies (Lee, Hornady,RCBS) and my 2 die sets are rifle dies, my pistol sets have a seperate 3rd die whose only purpose is flaring the case for bullet seating. If the sizing die flared the case neck, it coudlnt be pulled back out past the sized neck portion of the die. I'm missing something here.