Help ID magazines please

[G.T.]

Hi Roger! I don't know about the first mag you described, but the second mag sounds like a current or recent production by MEC-GAR mag's....although they are not collectable, they are excellent for shooting and function! It would seem that their older production has a matte blue finish, and the new ones are shiny gloss blue with MEC-GAR stamped on the tube! till...later...G.T.