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JonnyP 05-24-2026 09:15 AM

Lugers in Film
 
So I was watching All the Light You Cannot See on Netflix the other day. Surprised to see a few closeups of what appeared to be a very nice Luger - then the scene called for the actor to drop it and it was subsequently kicked across a rough concrete surface. Total cringe moment!

gunnertwo 05-24-2026 05:01 PM

Yes! Hope it was just a prop gun.

Reminds me of the first Dirty Harry movie when his M29 gets kicked across the concrete at the Mt Davidson memorial.

G2

Kiwi 05-24-2026 05:12 PM

Oh yes, every movie where bad person tells good person to put their gun down or else hostage gets shot. Good person complies and bad person for some unknown reason does not immediately shoot good person. Where do they get these script writers. Where do these script writers get such stupid heroes.

JonnyP 05-24-2026 06:44 PM

HOPEFULLY they use a nice gun for the closeups, then a beater for the abusive parts of the scene.

JonnyP 05-25-2026 04:30 PM

I should have added that that's the way the filmed The Rifleman. They used beaters for scenes that were rough on the rifle, then switched to a nice one for closeups. Love that show.

Edward Tinker 05-26-2026 01:58 AM

https://forum.lugerforum.com/forum/s...highlight=film

Dwight started a list once

Patrick Sweeney 05-26-2026 02:14 PM

I've had the opportunity to talk to movie armorers and production people, while working on various movie and TV projects.

The prop guns that aren't actual blank-firing firearms are these days plastic or rubber copies cast from molded real ones. The molds are so good you can actually read the serial number of the sample they used. So, plastic/rubber gets dropped.

in fact, if you look over a a scene where everyone is "armed" (police ready room/detective office, SWAT cops on deployment, military unit) you are seeing piles and piles of plastic and rubber. Only the actually, there has to be noise and flying brass scenes, does anyone ever get handed a live firearm.

The "firearm" kicked across the floor? Rubber. the Foley artist adds in the nerve-wrenching scraping noise later.

ithacaartist 05-26-2026 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sweeney (Post 352519)
... The molds are so good you can actually read the serial number of the sample they used. So, plastic/rubber gets dropped.

I have a couple plastic Kruger "Luger" cap guns that, although they are scaled down a bit in size, are quite faithful to an original's lines and proportions (If you neglect the cocking knob on the back:D). They're so faithful, in fact, that they all sport the "million-dollar chip"!

JonnyP 05-26-2026 09:18 PM

Never occurred to me that the scraping sound could be edited in later. That's a relief.

ithacaartist 05-27-2026 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JonnyP (Post 352521)
Never occurred to me that the scraping sound could be edited in later. That's a relief.

Audio technicians have probably been at that sort of thing since at least the first days of radio. Now that I think about it, backstage guys made thunder by flexing sheet metal offstage. Notably, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" had a very low budget and had to clack coconut shells together because they couldn't afford actual horses.:rolleyes:


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