Need Info on 1918 1920 Luger (Picts) - Page 2

policeluger · 01-07-2005, 02:43 PM

I was just going through a few more in my collection, I have a 7.65 X'ed out police, with the dot only after SN on side plate and toggle, and gun is 100% matching.....one more for the police theory.

Vlim · 01-07-2005, 03:35 PM

Policeluger: Never underestimate the power of the stupid

This practice is quite common and don't forget that many issued pistols spent their Weimar and early nazi days comfortably stacked in racks.

John Sabato · 01-07-2005, 03:50 PM

Howard, I think you may have missed the point...not the pistol, but multiple parts laid out on a bench might get confused and the numbers might get read incorrectly upside down...

policeluger · 01-08-2005, 02:49 PM

OK, I'm with you, but again I'll whip the dead horse that these are still only police, if it were nessary to stamp a dot, then were only the police numbered challanged....any other guns out there with this dot other then police....thanks for all the help

Ron Smith · 02-02-2005, 10:19 AM

Howdy, I'm with the Government, and I'm here to help. I thought I would revive this thread.

Just got a 1921 Army issue ser# 8915 b. The dot theory is about to explode. Photo of sideplate with dot. Here's the run down.

Sideplate > 15 Dot

Extractor > 15 Dot centered below number.

Front toggle > 15 Dot

Rear toggle > 15 Dot

Toggle pin > 15 No Dot

Breech block > Dot 15

Holdopen spring > 15 Dot below 5

Takedown > 15 No Dot

Trigger > 15 No Dot

Transfer bar > 15 Dot

Now What

Ron

Edward Tinker · 02-02-2005, 11:08 AM

I don't think my theory or thought changes. I believe there was either a unit or area of the country that had an edict that if there were weapons of the same serial number, you would "dot" the part to differentiate (sp) it from other parts.

As an example, the Dutch Indies added serial numbers to parts if there were "same" parts at the same unit.

And it happens, by luck but no design, I have three lugers with the last two of 39...

Ed

Ron Smith · 02-02-2005, 11:19 AM

Ed, This would be my guess too. More than one pistol in the unit with ser# ending in 15.
Ron

Ron Smith · 02-02-2005, 05:54 PM

PL, I was just joking. I did'nt mean to offend anyone. And I have worked for the Gov't for 32 yrs.

Ron

sesegal99 · 07-23-2010, 03:09 PM

Any more information on this pistol??

pitsword · 07-23-2010, 06:26 PM

OMG. Nothing, repeat nothing, ever falls through the

cracks here. Well, any more info?
Best to all,
pitsword

Edward Tinker · 07-23-2010, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sesegal99

Any more information on this pistol??

5 yrs and 5 months later, well, who knows?

sesegal99 · 08-11-2010, 03:14 PM

I still have it....I can get some really detailed photos if need be now.

sesegal99 · 08-11-2010, 03:18 PM

oh and by the way...this was in military use....I believe my Grandfather took it from an Officer he killed.

DavidJayUden · 08-11-2010, 03:51 PM

I'd suggest a bunch of photos if you want to jump start the thread on your gun.
dju

sesegal99 · 08-11-2010, 04:23 PM

Will do

pitsword · 08-11-2010, 07:10 PM

Goodo,
Please keep it going.

01-07-2005, 03:50 PM	#23
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Howard, I think you may have missed the point...not the pistol, but multiple parts laid out on a bench might get confused and the numbers might get read incorrectly upside down... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-02-2005, 10:19 AM	#25
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Howdy, I'm with the Government, and I'm here to help. I thought I would revive this thread. Just got a 1921 Army issue ser# 8915 b. The dot theory is about to explode. Photo of sideplate with dot. Here's the run down. Sideplate > 15 Dot Extractor > 15 Dot centered below number. Front toggle > 15 Dot Rear toggle > 15 Dot Toggle pin > 15 No Dot Breech block > Dot 15 Holdopen spring > 15 Dot below 5 Takedown > 15 No Dot Trigger > 15 No Dot Transfer bar > 15 Dot Now What Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-02-2005, 11:19 AM	#27
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ed, This would be my guess too. More than one pistol in the unit with ser# ending in 15. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

02-02-2005, 05:54 PM	#28
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	PL, I was just joking. I did'nt mean to offend anyone. And I have worked for the Gov't for 32 yrs. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-07-2005, 02:43 PM	#21
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I was just going through a few more in my collection, I have a 7.65 X'ed out police, with the dot only after SN on side plate and toggle, and gun is 100% matching.....one more for the police theory.

01-07-2005, 03:35 PM	#22
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,031 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,869 Times in 1,184 Posts	Policeluger: Never underestimate the power of the stupid This practice is quite common and don't forget that many issued pistols spent their Weimar and early nazi days comfortably stacked in racks.

01-08-2005, 02:49 PM	#24
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	OK, I'm with you, but again I'll whip the dead horse that these are still only police, if it were nessary to stamp a dot, then were only the police numbered challanged....any other guns out there with this dot other then police....thanks for all the help

02-02-2005, 11:08 AM	#26
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	I don't think my theory or thought changes. I believe there was either a unit or area of the country that had an edict that if there were weapons of the same serial number, you would "dot" the part to differentiate (sp) it from other parts. As an example, the Dutch Indies added serial numbers to parts if there were "same" parts at the same unit. And it happens, by luck but no design, I have three lugers with the last two of 39... Ed

07-23-2010, 03:09 PM	#29
sesegal99 User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any more information on this pistol??

07-23-2010, 06:26 PM	#30
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,881 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	OMG. Nothing, repeat nothing, ever falls through the cracks here. Well, any more info? Best to all, pitsword

08-11-2010, 03:14 PM	#32
sesegal99 User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I still have it....I can get some really detailed photos if need be now.

08-11-2010, 03:18 PM	#33
sesegal99 User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oh and by the way...this was in military use....I believe my Grandfather took it from an Officer he killed.

08-11-2010, 03:51 PM	#34
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I'd suggest a bunch of photos if you want to jump start the thread on your gun. dju

08-11-2010, 04:23 PM	#35
sesegal99 User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Will do

08-11-2010, 07:10 PM	#36
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 454 Thanks: 3,881 Thanked 101 Times in 81 Posts	Goodo, Please keep it going.