Collecting data on Portuguese contract guns.

Doug G. · 12-09-2005, 06:46 PM

Just wondering how many of these guns are in the hands of forum members. As some will know I have a M2 and a GNR. No real need for serial numbers, but go ahead and post them if you like.

M2
2341
2483
2688
2866
3383

GNR
2175v
2268v
2278v

NAVY
85

the gunman · 12-09-2005, 08:54 PM

Hi Doug I got one of each . If you need the numbers just holler .

Doug G. · 12-09-2005, 09:44 PM

Well, why not get a list going. My M2 is #2341 and the GNR is #2175v.

Ron Wood · 12-09-2005, 09:49 PM

M2 - #3383
Royal Navy - #85
GNR - #2268v

Doug G. · 12-09-2005, 10:32 PM

Ron, your not going to believe this, but I just won an auction on Ebay for a GNR holster. It has the number 2269 on the back. Never saw a number on any of the other GNR holsters I've seen.
PS hope I didn't out bid you on it. Just in case you were.

Pete Ebbink · 12-10-2005, 06:00 PM

M2...# 2866 with 2 circle/triangle magazines...

Mike B · 12-10-2005, 06:44 PM

Hi Doug,
My M2.......... 2483

Lugerdoc · 12-11-2005, 11:09 AM

How about the BYF 42s purchased by Portugal at the end of the Mauser PO8 production run (m & n suffix) in 1943? TH

sambuscemi · 12-11-2005, 02:07 PM

Doug: Here is a couple I have

42 BYF SN 4190m
41 Banner SN 6961w
06/34 Navy SN 4312v
06/34 Navy SN 2524v
C/M2 SN 2688
Anchor RP SN 437
C/Anchor SN 259
GNR SN 2278v

Hope this helps. SAM

kidvett · 12-11-2005, 09:43 PM

Doug,

Both 42 byf's rigs:

SN 209 m ( parkerized )
SN 2095 m ( blued )

MARC

Pete Ebbink · 11-01-2006, 12:20 PM

Doug,

Joop from Belgium posted these GNR's over on Jan Still's Gun Board a few weeks back :

" List updated
Thanks to Doug Smith I received the SN's of some very interesting Portuguese Lugers.
SN's 2296v, 2298v, 2483v, 2484v, 2486v, 2487v and 2489v have the following configuration:
4" - 9mm barrels, Cc/U commercial proofed, segurado and carregado markings for safety and extractor, no chamber marking, Mauser Banner 5 lines on toggle.
These SN's fall into the Batch of (also) Portuguese GNR contract Lugers, which have a longer 7.65mm barrel and a GNR chamber marking.
It might be, that the Portuguese Navy ordered some sample/test Lugers, that were delivered with the GNR pistols in 1935.
The sampling must have been succesful, as the Portuguease Navy ordered later three batches of these pistols hjaving the same configuration.

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Joop

ken d · 11-01-2006, 05:51 PM

Doug:

M2 3542
GNR 2162V
BYF42 684M

Regards

Ken D

drbuster · 11-02-2006, 12:50 AM

Am I missing something here or did I read that both Doug and Ron have Royal Navies numbered #85!

Ron Wood · 11-02-2006, 11:23 AM

Doug just added my numbers to his list. Note that my M2 and GNR numbers are also listed.

Hugh · 11-02-2006, 04:32 PM

Add this one to the list: M2 #942

LU1900 · 11-03-2006, 04:18 AM

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David Eash · 11-05-2006, 08:28 PM

Portuguese Contract Lugers

1900 test sn 18767 1 of 100

GNR sn 2338v 1of 564
M2 sn 28 1 of 5000
Navy CA sn 273 1of 350
Navy RP sn 389 1 of300
Navy CA sn 289 1 of 350
1935 Navy sn 2502v 1 of 70
1937 Navy sn 4321v 1 of 50
1941 Navy sn 6978y 1 of 30
1942 Banner sn 8033y It was with the Portuguese Lugers that Doug Smith brought into the US in the 1990's
1942 BYF sn 1456m 1 of 5000

John Sabato · 11-05-2006, 11:01 PM

David Eash ... Welcome to the Lugerforum... and thanks for sharing your info...

MFC · 11-11-2006, 02:19 AM

Hi guys,
C/M2-S#3803. 1 triangle inside circle mag. So far, I've got the youngest one.

In both Luger Tips and Standard Catalog of Lugers it's stated that there are only 6 reported Royal Navys. There are 4 on this thread alone and I've recently seen 4 more for sale on other forums. Must be coming out of the wood work. Does anybody know if they have one of the 6 the books were refering too?
Mike C.

LU1900 · 11-11-2006, 04:16 AM

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12-09-2005, 06:46 PM	#1
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Collecting data on Portuguese contract guns. Just wondering how many of these guns are in the hands of forum members. As some will know I have a M2 and a GNR. No real need for serial numbers, but go ahead and post them if you like. M2 2341 2483 2688 2866 3383 GNR 2175v 2268v 2278v NAVY 85 __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

12-09-2005, 09:49 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	M2 - #3383 Royal Navy - #85 GNR - #2268v __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-09-2005, 10:32 PM	#5
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Ron, your not going to believe this, but I just won an auction on Ebay for a GNR holster. It has the number 2269 on the back. Never saw a number on any of the other GNR holsters I've seen. PS hope I didn't out bid you on it. Just in case you were. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

11-02-2006, 11:23 AM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,256 Times in 1,724 Posts	Doug just added my numbers to his list. Note that my M2 and GNR numbers are also listed. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-02-2006, 04:32 PM	#15
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Add this one to the list: M2 #942 __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

12-09-2005, 08:54 PM	#2
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Hi Doug I got one of each . If you need the numbers just holler .

12-09-2005, 09:44 PM	#3
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Well, why not get a list going. My M2 is #2341 and the GNR is #2175v. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

12-10-2005, 06:00 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	M2...# 2866 with 2 circle/triangle magazines...

12-10-2005, 06:44 PM	#7
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 272 Times in 100 Posts	Hi Doug, My M2.......... 2483

12-11-2005, 11:09 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	How about the BYF 42s purchased by Portugal at the end of the Mauser PO8 production run (m & n suffix) in 1943? TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

12-11-2005, 02:07 PM	#9
sambuscemi User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 192 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Doug: Here is a couple I have 42 BYF SN 4190m 41 Banner SN 6961w 06/34 Navy SN 4312v 06/34 Navy SN 2524v C/M2 SN 2688 Anchor RP SN 437 C/Anchor SN 259 GNR SN 2278v Hope this helps. SAM

12-11-2005, 09:43 PM	#10
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Doug, Both 42 byf's rigs: SN 209 m ( parkerized ) SN 2095 m ( blued ) MARC

11-01-2006, 12:20 PM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Doug, Joop from Belgium posted these GNR's over on Jan Still's Gun Board a few weeks back : " List updated Thanks to Doug Smith I received the SN's of some very interesting Portuguese Lugers. SN's 2296v, 2298v, 2483v, 2484v, 2486v, 2487v and 2489v have the following configuration: 4" - 9mm barrels, Cc/U commercial proofed, segurado and carregado markings for safety and extractor, no chamber marking, Mauser Banner 5 lines on toggle. These SN's fall into the Batch of (also) Portuguese GNR contract Lugers, which have a longer 7.65mm barrel and a GNR chamber marking. It might be, that the Portuguese Navy ordered some sample/test Lugers, that were delivered with the GNR pistols in 1935. The sampling must have been succesful, as the Portuguease Navy ordered later three batches of these pistols hjaving the same configuration. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joop

11-01-2006, 05:51 PM	#12
ken d Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: louisville ky Posts: 277 Thanks: 31 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Doug: M2 3542 GNR 2162V BYF42 684M Regards Ken D

11-02-2006, 12:50 AM	#13
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Am I missing something here or did I read that both Doug and Ron have Royal Navies numbered #85!

11-03-2006, 04:18 AM	#16
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 912 Thanks: 46 Thanked 473 Times in 199 Posts	......... . __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

11-05-2006, 08:28 PM	#17
David Eash User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: md Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Portuguese Contract Lugers 1900 test sn 18767 1 of 100 GNR sn 2338v 1of 564 M2 sn 28 1 of 5000 Navy CA sn 273 1of 350 Navy RP sn 389 1 of300 Navy CA sn 289 1 of 350 1935 Navy sn 2502v 1 of 70 1937 Navy sn 4321v 1 of 50 1941 Navy sn 6978y 1 of 30 1942 Banner sn 8033y It was with the Portuguese Lugers that Doug Smith brought into the US in the 1990's 1942 BYF sn 1456m 1 of 5000

11-05-2006, 11:01 PM	#18
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,155 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	David Eash ... Welcome to the Lugerforum... and thanks for sharing your info... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-11-2006, 02:19 AM	#19
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hi guys, C/M2-S#3803. 1 triangle inside circle mag. So far, I've got the youngest one. In both Luger Tips and Standard Catalog of Lugers it's stated that there are only 6 reported Royal Navys. There are 4 on this thread alone and I've recently seen 4 more for sale on other forums. Must be coming out of the wood work. Does anybody know if they have one of the 6 the books were refering too? Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

11-11-2006, 04:16 AM	#20
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 912 Thanks: 46 Thanked 473 Times in 199 Posts	......... ... __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/